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Sunday, July 19, 2009

Revit Grabs Yet Another Student.

It's spreading like a plague.... and I love it.


"I recently got hired at Howl O' Scream @ Busch Gardens, which is forcing me to move my Tuesday/Thursday 5:30-7:30 "Building Arts" class to an earlier time. Well, there is no earlier time, so I decided to try and sign up for the Intermediate AutoCAD class instead. When I did that, the computer told me I hadn't met the prerequisite of taking a "Beginning Technology Design" class.....BULLCRAP! I've already finished the Beginning AutoCAD class and taken an entire year of Architectural Design! I'm not computer illerate, I'm part of the millenial generation!!! Anyway, so I said "screw that, I'm CLEPing these exams," meaning I'm going to learn AutoCAD on my own and take the exam to just get the credit hours with no grade, which is fine by me.

Like I said, by now I've already taken a "Beggining AutoCAD" class and have figured out by now that this program has some serious flaws. Actually, let me back up. My PROFESSORS have some serious flaws. Both semesters of Architectural Design, my professors gave us a rule of NO AUTOCAD!!!! I understand the fundamentals behind learning to draw and such, but they wouldn't even let us have drawings AND AutoCAD renderings on our final presentations......ONLY drawings. I found this as somewhat shocking, since I had figured the primary tool in the design industry was AutoCAD. The last project I did, I REALLY needed some kind of design program to help me figure out the floor plans of my building. Since I didn't yet know how to use 3D AutoCAD, I downloaded google sketchup.

I'll start this paragraph off by saying GOOGLE SKETCHUP IS AWESOME. For a beginning architect student like myself, this program will teach you basic comands, let you play around with your creative ideas, and is also very fun and simple! After using this program, I began to think even more about how crappy AutoCAD seemed. I mean, I hadn't yet toyed with 3D AutoCAD, but I was already very frustrated with simple 2D, so I couldn't even imagine how angry I would get with 3D.

Anyway, returning back to the flaws of AutoCAD. The number one thing I have noticed with it is that it isn't intuitive....AT ALL. It doesn't know what I'm trying to tell it to do, where I'm trying to tell it to go, or how I'm trying to tell it to work. It has a mind of it's own. I'm guessing the reason behind this is because it isn't an object based program, but I could be wrong. The point is that a free program that google made is WAY more intuitive than a $3,000 program, and quite honestly, that can be frustrating to those who have already spent that huge wad of cash. I have gotten SO FRUSTRATED from trying to learn this program that I have slammed keyboards, mouses, banged computers, had to restart computers MANY TIMES, screamed, and CRIED for crying out loud! I sometimes feel like I should just rip the monitor right out of the computer and throw it out of the window!!!!

So, I went searching for something else. I tweeted how frustrated I usually am when using AutoCAD and someone replied telling me to try Revit because they understood the feeling. I've heard of Revit before from several profesors telling me that they only use Revit in their offices and that AutoCAD is on the way out the door. I decided to give this Revit a try. I then found a FREE educational download version which made me very happy and learned that AutoDesk is the same company that makes both Revit and AutoCAD. So......is AutoDesk just keeping AutoCAD around for the old farts who can't learn new programs? Try this: Google "AutoCAD sucks." I get 178,000 results, 178,001 by the time I'm done. Now Google "Revit sucks," only 25,500. I think that alone says something.

So my question then becomes, WHY am I being taught AutoCAD and WHY is it a requirement to know the program before I transfer to a University for Architecture? If this thing is on the way out, shouldn't I be learning something that's on the way in? I guess I can't depend on the school board to figure this one out, so I suppose I'm teaching it to myself. Unfortunately I still have to CLEP both 2D and 3D AutoCAD exams to transfer to a University, but I'll do whatever it takes to get there, even if that requires learning a software programs that dinosaurs invented."

Good luck to Bonnie and lets hope to hear how her Revit journey will continue.

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She learned to bash programs before learning to use them.

These are just tools for good architecture. One comes another goes, they have both their pros and cons.. Keep in mind that programs are not the main goal.. (Unless you are coding, selling etc. them)

Say good luck with her education from me..
lol, I wasn't trying to "bash" the program. I was just kind of restating what everyone, including my own professors, are trying to tell me.
Taskisla....

I understand where you are coming from but that was not the point of my repost of her post. She is not a CAD user, not a Sketchup Expert, and is a first year Architecture Student. To see her very own view point about Revit and so on without having many different influences is interesting to me.
I hope before you use any computer programs you learn how to draw by hand first. Yes, Revit is the way to go.

Hand Drawing>Autocad (an electronic version of drawing by hand)>Autocad Architecture(familar to those that know autocad but with the added ability to draw objects and tools geared to architects and the development of architectural drawings with some parametric capabilties and ability to create schedules )>Revit (designed from the ground up, fully parameteric, one model, with tools and objects geared to architects, more like building a 3-D model then slicing it up to create plans, elevations, details, etc. creates schedules from information added to objects) But anyway back to the basics learn how to draw first, then how to analize and put buildings together.

Good luck
That's exactly what I'm doing Craig. I do enjoy drawing very much, and when I have an idea that pops into my head, a pencil is the first thing I pick up.
Many teachers are out of touch with technology and this has been the way for some time. When I was in school CAD was just taking root and showing anything computer generated was a sure fire way to get a tough critic. As a Revit teacher myself I understand some of the concern. The computer produces so much so fast it is easy to accept the results without thought. I tell my students to first decide on how the drawing should look and then ensure this intent is represented. If I see a student post a view with the title "3D View 1" I know they didn't think about it and they hear from me. When I was in school I treated the computer just like any other tool. I also made sure I could draft a perspective by hand as well or better than my instructors so I had a basis for my opinions on computer usage. My current stand is use anything and everything to explore your ideas and designs. BTW the Boston Architectural college has been teaching 30+ Revit students a semester for several years now.

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