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Thursday, September 3, 2009

Oh the Comments.

If you all remember my "Revit Sucks" post from way back when you would remember the amount of comments it received. Well... people are still commenting 4 months later.

I figured I would post the latest comment and response...

Stevo said...

Here's the #1 reason that makes Revit suck:
IT'S NOT A TRUE 3D MODELING SOFTWARE - which makes it easy to use, until you have to do a full set of CD's... (ever tried making stairs?? or a rail? what a pain in the ass)
Reason #2: Autodesk got its hands on it = might as well bury it right now. (WTF is the point of the "ribbon"??? Revit had a very functional and user friendly "ribbon" ALREADY!!!!)
And yes, I work with Revit on a daily basis and have for the past 3 versions.

If Revit could do true 3D sweeps it could actually be a great user friendly program.
September 3, 2009 5:02 PM

The Revit Kid said...

Thanks for the comment Stevo.

#1 - Do a search of this site and the many blogs out there using Revit. It most certainly is a 3D modeling software. I just modeled a 3D door in it today.

#2 - You would not even be using Revit right now if Autodesk did not get it's hands on it. I understand people resentment towards "the man" but the little firm that developed Revit would not have had the millions of dollars in R&D to push it to the point where Stevo even knows about the program.

#3 - Yes, I have done CD's in Revit. Yes, I have made stairs and railings in Revit. I have also benefitted greatly from using Revit stairs and railings. Ever try changing the slope of a handicap ramp in elevation with strictly line drawing in CAD? Re-trimming balusters that are set at 2"o.c.?

If you truly have worked with Revit for as long as you say... you would have had a much more intelligent, in depth, and detailed description of why you think Revit sucks.

Thanks again for reading the blog and bringing up these points.

There are a few more posts like this. The only problem I have with these posts is that these people do not even read the rest of the blog. If they did they would know a majority of the stuff they state has been dismantled by me or a fellow blogger.

I urge you all to comment back ;)

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I never get the "Revit Sucks" folks. Sucks compared to what? All of the BIM products out there, and heck, even the CAD products are very capable at what they do. They each have their pluses and minuses, and at the end of the day, you choose one based on what pluses and minuses you are willing to tolerate. I've tried ArchiCAD, Revit, Vectorworks, Chief Architect, and I've used AutoCAD of course. I would love to use ArchiCAD because it runs natively on Macs, but for ME, (note the use of the word ME), revit's interface and methodology is more comfortable. ArchiCAD is great, awesome even, I just like Revit a little more.

I don't think anyone can say "revit sucks." You can say, "Revit does not have as many features as X," and then point those out. You can say, "Revit's rendering is not as good as X," and the show why. Those are intelligent comments worth reading.

Stevo is emblematic of many posters all over the internet. They argue as all people do when they don't know what they're talking about: they make open ended and often illogical statements based on falsehoods that they set up as fact. (BTW statements are not arguments, which are different, and require intelligence to make).
I just want to comment on your #2 point. I think it's valid that Autodesk's acquisition of Revit has propelled it progress due to the R&D capital, but we *did* know about it back then. There were quite a few posts on the Autodesk discussion groups that got axed by moderators for discussing "*evit," or "the big 'R' word," as it came to be known.

As for me, I'm just getting into it, so I'm sure I have more to learn about Revit's suckage.
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I would like to know if there is anyone who is more or less familiar with Revit and Allplan and how would they compare them? Thanks
I am a high school teacher. We are using Revit. It is diffucult for high school students-especially when they do not know much about the 'hardware' or a building...doors, windows, etc. Our local Autodesk distributor maintains that it is coming, like it or not. (Whether he is saying this to promote Revit? do not know) Anyway, just took a refresher/intro course at the local community college.
The instructor/architect mentioned that the GC that built our new baseball park in downtown Omaha-home of the College World Series by the way-required that all subs, etc HAD to have some sort of 3D modeling/Revit software in order to make bids. All changes were made on a master plan, and all subs had to access that master plan.
Revit used to be an architectural production software-just like Autocad. It has progressed much further to where we can actually use it to DESIGN.
BTW also... I know several students who have enrolled in Architecture programs. They have informed me that these colleges are starting to use Revit also..

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