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Monday, January 11, 2010

Tutorial - Floor or Ceiling? What to do...

I ran into an interesting cunundrum that many of you may have run into. If you followed my Student to Student Revit guide you will see the two main ways to create floors in Revit Architecture. Typically, you would create a solid floor and within those floor properties add the many materials. We will use a typical floor structure of 3/4" Finished Floor, 3/4" Sub-Floor, 2x10 Studs, and perhaps Gypsum Board for the level below's ceiling. Hm... But then how do you add a recessed light to the floor in the Gypsum Board added for the level below (when it is hosted to a ceiling). Well, you would remove that structure from the floor and create a ceiling made up of only the gypsum board. Place that underneath the 2x10 solid structre of the floor above.

You continue to design, model, and build. Now... It is time to do some renderings. You set up a camera in the kitchen where there are about 12 recessed downlights you have added into your model. Then you click render. Dark!?! Not a single glimmer of artifical light in the scene?

So, what is the correct way to construct a floor in Revit? A solid floor with joists, a void with beam systems, or place the joists as part of the ceilings? Realistically, I would say using a beam system for the fact of realism, 3D sections, and analysis.

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I just ran into this problem. My solution was to change the camera view to wireframe, select the floor system, than hide in view. Than it rendered just fine with the lights and I was only messing with the view. This worked because I never put the ceiling in the floor assembly.
That is definitely a work around... but with some issues...

For example, if you have 22 scenes set up to render you would have to do this in each view. Also, if you wanted to do an exterior night/dusk rendering with the interior lights on and you had multiple floors all over the building. Head ache.

I find that once you start to hide elements to get stuff to work you begin to lose productivity and run into more problems deeper into the project. I would suggest doing it right the first time (even if it takes an extra day of work) and it will benefit the overall outcome.
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"exterior night/dusk rendering with the interior lights" how can i do this??
Do a search ... I believe I have posted about a blog called "Buildz" who did a write up on it . Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryJeffrey A. Pinheiro, LEED APJeff@therevitkid.compinheiro.jeff@gmail.com203 993 5509www.therevitkid.com
hey can you give a basic tutorial about light adding, and where is it normally added to floor plans or ceiling plans?? and what do they mean when they say light fixtures as "wall based" or "ceiling based" families?
in revit how should i create different designs
Okay, how bout vaulted ceilings? was considering just making a roof system, but then i would still have the lighting issues. Thanks RevitKid your site rocks!

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