Room Phasing Frustrations!

Wednesday, August 31, 2011

Room Phasing Frustrations!

How many of you have used Revit and Phasing? Specifically, Demolition plans... How many of you have pondered this very question:

"Why would New Construction room names want to been seen on a Demolition Plan?!?!?!"

Recently, I was working on a project that has over nine part plans... The only work around for getting your Existing Room names (that I have found useful) is to create an Existing Room Names view that only shows Existing Room names. Then, place the demolition view on the sheet and overlay the existing room names over it. This worked out fine on most of the projects. Unfortunately, creating nine part plan views of existing room names for four levels and then overlaying them on top of their respective views on sheets drove me absolutely crazy!

Example of New Rooms showing in "Previous + New" Phase filter. Why!?

Why can we not phase rooms?! Autodesk, this does not seem like a very difficult fix. No one wants to see New Construction room names on a "Previous + Demo" filter...

Has anyone experienced this? What is your workaround? Comment below!

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Martijn de Riet · 709 weeks ago

Using an extra Phase for demolition would solve this...

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TheRevitKid 72p · 709 weeks ago

I will have to give that a try but I am pretty sure I have tried it before.... The problem with that is when you go to your "New Construction" view that is filtered "Previous + New"... your existing goes away... Then you have to manage more phase filters and if you have multiple links you have to do this multiple times...

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Juan R · 709 weeks ago

I think you have the phase field in "New Construction" in View Properties.

If you put the phase field in "Existing", the rooms should dissapear, unless you have created them in that phase.

This way works in my projects, I don´t see rooms in demolition plans.

I'm sorry about my english, I'm from Spain.

Great Site

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Gabe Cottam · 709 weeks ago

Creating rooms in an "existing" view (view phase set to existing) will phase the room as existing. It does exactly what you want it to do.

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Marty M · 709 weeks ago

We had the exact same issue, only 7 plan parts. We created 3 phases: existing, demolition, and new construction. Demolition plans are set to demolition phase, with view filter 'previous + demo'... room tags are in the demolition phase. New construction/renovation plans are set to new construction phase with view filter 'previous + new'...room tags are in new construction phase. You have to create room tags for each room for both demo and new construction, but we used this as an opportunity to create a color scheme of hatches to show demolished flooring, which conformed to the demo phase rooms.

Odd ball of all of this is that room separation lines CAN be created and demolished per phase...

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TheRevitKid 72p · 709 weeks ago

Marty,

Thanks for the reply. You have sparked my brain and made me realize how to manage this. Logically, my brain thinks that these elements are supposed to be demo'd in the New Construction phase.... Because, well, that is when they are being demolished... They must be demolished in the demolition phase! Brilliant! Heads up for a post about this.

The only issue I have now is that I am still forced to manage two sets of the same exact room names (just in different phases)... That can be annoying but not nearly as annoying as creating a layover view.

Oh yeah... and the room separation line is a silly little thing... Why does that not just exist PER phase as the rooms do...? interesting.

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Martijn de Riet · 709 weeks ago

Hi Jeffrey,
Marty has been more eloquent in describing this but that was exactly what I meant.
I have always been using an extra Demolition phase and it works really well. I also find the joining of new building elements (let it be walls, floors, roofs, openings, or anything else) on (partly) demolished components be way more predictable. Not that it always works how you would want it but at least the behaviour is less irratic.

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TheRevitKid 72p · 709 weeks ago

That is a great tip... I just posted today about it. Thanks for all the comments!

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Wednesday, August 31, 2011